Living Well with Multiple Sclerosis
Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast from the Overcoming MS charity. In each episode, your host Geoff Allix explores a different aspect of the Overcoming MS Program in greater depth by talking with experts and people with MS about health lifestyle changes. New episodes are published on Wednesdays and feature interviews with scientists, neurologists, fitness specialists, diet experts, stress reduction professionals. The podcast also features inspirational, real-life stories from people with multiple sclerosis following the Overcoming MS program, about the challenges and victories of managing symptoms through lifestyle modification.
Episodes

Wednesday May 06, 2020
Wednesday May 06, 2020
Bio: Kim Venter is a British South African currently living in London who was diagnosed with MS in 2010. Kim is a trained teacher, professional psychological counsellor and nutritional consultant who thoroughly enjoys working with people and helping them overcome various challenges in their lives. Kim is particularly interested in Health Psychology, which is to say exploring the impact on the mind of what is going in the body. She feels that this training has increased her awareness of the psychological impact MS has and how the food we eat affects the health of our minds. Kim’s website offers a huge amount of resources as well as a course covering diet, exercise and mindfulness. Questions: What is the microbiome and why is it so important? The gut-immune system connection – how does what we eat affect our immune system? What is Leaky Gut Syndrome and how it can give rise to symptoms? The gut brain axis – isn’t there a blood-brain barrier that stops foreign substances from injuring the brain? How do you keep the gut healthy with probiotics and prebiotics (food for the good bacteria)? Is it best to take prebiotic and probiotic tablets, or can we use certain foods to the same effect? How does gut health or lack thereof impact MS? Links: FODMAP Food Database App About Kim Venter Coming up next: Coming up next, treat yourself to a morsel of insight from the OMS community on Living Well with MS Coffee Break #3, which launches on Monday, May 11. On the next full-length episode of Living Well with MS, launching May 27, 2020, we have the honor of welcoming Caroline Clarke, Chief Executive of the Royal Free London NHS Foundation Trust, to hear both her personal and professional insights on Overcoming MS. Don’t miss out: Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show.

Monday Apr 20, 2020
Monday Apr 20, 2020
Welcome to our second installment of Living Well with MS Coffee Break, where we welcome Vicky Argyle as our guest! As you now know, we decided to do something a little different in expanding the range of content we produce here at Living Well with MS. To honor the community that forms the beating heart of Overcoming MS, this special series called Coffee Break features short interviews with members of the OMS community talking about their personal journeys adopting and staying on the OMS 7 Step Recovery Program, the challenges they encountered and how they overcame them, and their tips and tricks for sticking to the path that leads to better health. We hope you enjoy and learn from these intermezzos between our regular episodes, and as always, your comments and suggestions are always welcome by emailing podcast@overcomingms.org. Bio: Vicky originally worked as a music publisher in London before moving to Scotland in the late 1980s and retraining as a massage and reflexology therapist and teacher of Aura-Soma. 15 years later, she moved back to England where she ran a Soil Association Organic Box Scheme in Herefordshire before going on to work in the Renewable Energy Industry. Vicky was diagnosed with MS in 2013, and now works part-time for her partner, a farmer in South Somerset. Finally, she has a chance to put some focus into her true passion, writing. Questions: Can you tell us a little about yourself, your family, your life, where you live and anything about yourself you’d like to share? When were you diagnosed with MS and how long have you been following the Overcoming MS 7 Step Recovery Program? What is your favorite thing about the program, namely what do you feel has made the biggest positive impact? What was your greatest challenge in adopting the OMS program, and how did you overcome it? How have you had to adapt your daily healthy habits to the new realities imposed by COVID-19? Do you have any other tips or tricks you can share with our audience that might help them on their journeys? Links: OMS COVID-19 main resource page Excellent COVID-19 resource page from Dr. Gavin Giovannoni If you post something concerning OMS and COVID-19, especially if it’s a bit of good news during this rough patch, don’t forget to use the hashtag #positivelyOMS. Coming up on our next episode: On the next full-length episode of Living Well with MS, launching May 6, 2020, Geoff Allix gets a “macro” view on a critically important “micro” topic, Gut Health: Your Microbiome and You, from Kim Venter, a trained teacher, professional psychological counsellor and nutritional consultant, who helps us understand the connection between gut health and the immune system. Don’t miss out: Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show.

Wednesday Apr 15, 2020
Wednesday Apr 15, 2020
Bio: Mari L. McCarthy is an award-winning and international bestselling author whose books Journaling Power: How to Create the Happy, Healthy Life You Want to Live and Heal Yourself with Journaling Power have introduced people around the world to the power journaling has to help heal the body. After losing feeling and function in the right side of her body in 1998, Mari was diagnosed with MS. Undaunted, she took up a daily journaling practice which over time helped improve her MS symptoms to the extent that she is now an accomplished recording artist with three full-length albums. Mari’s website, CreateWriteNow.com, is the platform she runs to share her methods, expertise and passion for journaling. Questions: Can you please share with our audience a bit about your own personal story, and your journey since being diagnosed with MS? What are the key benefits of keeping a journal? Is there any link between journaling and healing? Do you think there’s a connection between your journaling and your music? Can keeping a journal actually improve our health? What are your best tips for someone who has never journaled to start journaling? Is it important to journal using pen and paper, or would a journaling app work just as well? Links: CreateWriteNow About Mari McCarthy CreateWriteNow Facebook CreateWriteNow Twitter CreateWriteNow YouTube Coming up on our next episode: Coming up next, treat yourself to a morsel of insight from OMS community member Vicky Argyle on Living Well with MS Coffee Break #2, which launches on Monday, April 20. On the next full-length episode of Living Well with MS, launching May 6, 2020, Geoff Allix gets a “macro” view on a critically important “micro” topic, Gut Health: Your Microbiome and You, from Kim Venter, a trained teacher, professional psychological counsellor and nutritional consultant, who helps us understand the connection between gut health and the immune system. Don’t miss out: Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show.

Wednesday Apr 08, 2020
Wednesday Apr 08, 2020
Welcome to our first Living Well with MS Coffee Break episode! We decided to do something a little different in expanding the range of content we produce here at Living Well with MS. Since our community forms the beating heart of Overcoming MS, we are commencing this special series called Coffee Break, which features short interviews with members of the OMS community talking about their personal journeys adopting and staying on the OMS 7 Step Recovery Program, the challenges they encountered and how they overcame them, and their tips and tricks for sticking to the path that leads to better health. We hope you enjoy and learn from these intermezzos between our regular episodes, and as always, your comments and suggestions are always welcome by emailing podcast@overcomingms.org. Questions: Can you tell us a little about yourself, your family, your life, where you live and anything about yourself you’d like to share? When were you diagnosed with MS and how long have you been following the Overcoming MS 7 Step Recovery Program? What is your favorite thing about the program, namely what do you feel has made the biggest positive impact? What was your greatest challenge in adopting the OMS program, and how did you overcome it? How have you had to adapt your daily healthy habits to the new realities imposed by COVID-19? Do you have any other tips or tricks you can share with our audience that might help them on their journeys? Bio: Maisie lives in the Cotswolds of England where she settled in 2018 after travelling the world and being constantly on the move with the British Army. She has two grown children. In 2016, while training for the Berlin marathon, she noticed numbness in her feet, initially thinking it was due to the stress of marathon prep. The numbness continued to spread and caused her difficulty in walking. Running was out of the question. Six months later, after medical referrals and testing, she was diagnosed with MS. Since then, Maisie has left the Army, discovered OMS and is just about to finish an MSc in Nutritional Therapy. She is back to running and last year completed the London and Snowdonia marathons and took part in the Thames Path Challenge for OMS. She is currently cocooned in the Cotswolds due to COVID-19 and the immune suppressing drugs she is taking for her MS. Links: OMS COVID-19 main resource page Excellent COVID-19 resource page from Dr. Gavin Giovannoni If you post something concerning OMS and COVID-19, especially if it’s a bit of good news during this rough patch, don’t forget to use the hashtag #positivelyOMS. Coming up on our next episode: On the next full episode of Living Well with MS, launching April 15, 2020, Geoff Allix explores the power journaling has to help heal the body with Mari L. McCarthy, an award-winning and international bestselling author of books such as Journaling Power: How to Create the Happy, Healthy Life You Want to Live and Heal Yourself with Journaling Power. The power of Mari’s own story and the impact she has had on people all over the world will open your eyes. Don’t miss out: Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show.

Wednesday Apr 01, 2020
Wednesday Apr 01, 2020
Whether one has MS or not, the world is going through an unprecedented and difficult time. So, we have created this special episode of Living Well with MS, featuring Dr. Jonathan White, to better understand the coronavirus, or COVID-19, pandemic and how it affects people with MS. Please be aware that knowledge of this virus is changing rapidly, and we are presenting the best information that we have at time of recording, but you should check for updates regularly, with your healthcare professionals and from credible sources on the Web, including the links below in the show notes, to ensure that you have the latest advice. And remember, stay safe, healthy and sane while we work our way through this chapter in history. Questions: What is Coronavirus/COVID-19? What are the early signs that might indicate you’ve contracted it? What are the key steps you should take if you think you have COVID-19? Is it especially dangerous if you have a condition like MS? Why? We have been hearing a lot about social distancing and self-isolation. Is this especially important for people with MS? What’s the difference between self-isolation and social distancing and what are your recommendations for implementation? Do DMTs affect COVID-19? What happens in these scenarios? Likely low-risk DMTs Likely medium-risk DMTs Likely high-risk DMTs HSCT (Hematopoietic Stem Cell Transplantation) What if I’ve just had a round of treatment… which extra precautions should I take? Possible positive effects of DMTs How do you keep a sound mind and maintain a healthy exercise regimen at a time when things seem so bleak and the world is grinding to a halt? Should I attend hospital visits? I know that in the OMS book, George says not to take multi vitamins. Does this advice still stand during the pandemic if people are struggling to get enough nutrients from food as they either can’t get to a shop or there is very little food in the shops? Bio: Dr. Jonathan White, a practicing medical doctor in Belfast, Northern Ireland, also works with Overcoming MS as a medical consultant and event facilitator. You can learn more about Dr. White’s professional background here. Links: OMS COVID-19 main resource page Excellent COVID-19 resource page from Dr. Gavin Giovannoni A video on COVID-19 from neurologist Dr. Brandon Beaber A video on COVID-19 from neurologist Dr. Aaron Boster If you post something concerning OMS and COVID-19, especially if it’s a bit of good news during this rough patch, don’t forget to use the hashtag #positivelyOMS. Coming up on our next episode: On the next episode of Living Well with MS, launching April 15, 2020, Geoff Allix explores the power journaling has to help heal the body with Mari L. McCarthy, an award-winning and international bestselling author of books such as Journaling Power: How to Create the Happy, Healthy Life You Want to Live and Heal Yourself with Journaling Power. The power of Mari’s own story and the impact she has had on people all over the world will open your eyes. Don’t miss out: Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show.

Wednesday Mar 18, 2020
Wednesday Mar 18, 2020
We all know that exercise is a key component of healthy living, and particularly important too if you have MS, which is why it plays such a prominent role as one of the steps of the OMS 7 Step Recovery Program. But did you know that when you’re exercising your body, you’re working out your nervous system as well? Our guest on this episode of Living Well with MS, Dr. Gretchen Hawley, will explain neuroplasticity (for us lay people, that’s the brain’s ability to continually change, a sign of brain health) and how exercise can impact it, as well as share her insights on helping people with MS improve their strength, balance and mobility. Bio: Gretchen Hawley is a Doctor of Physical Therapy and a Multiple Sclerosis Certified Specialist. After graduating from Simmons University in Boston, she developed a Multiple Sclerosis program alongside two of the city's top MS neurologists. Dr. Hawley utilizes the concept of neuroplasticity to improve strength, balance and walking in those with MS by using specific, functional exercises. She has been a keynote speaker at several National MS Society events and other MS focused conferences in 2018 and 2019 and presents frequently to MS groups. Dr. Hawley brings a keen understanding of the challenges faced by people living with MS and has developed a virtual physical therapy program to help people improve their MS symptoms while in the comfort of their own home and guided by an MS specialist. Dr. Hawley resides in Buffalo with her dog, Finn. Questions: How is MS physical therapy different from orthopedic/"regular" physical therapy? What are some of the pitfalls for someone with MS who doesn’t get specialized PT? What is neuroplasticity and how does it work? What are some tips to manage fatigue when exercising, and how can exercise help with fatigue? How do you handle goal setting with your PT? Tell us about your program, MSing Link? How is it designed to help people with MS who don’t have access to a PT who specializes in MS? Links: The MSing Link Behind the Scenes Video About Gretchen Hawley Coming up on our next episode: On the next episode of Living Well with MS, Geoff Allix explores the power journaling has to help heal the body with Mari L. McCarthy, an award-winning and international bestselling author of books such as Journaling Power: How to Create the Happy, Healthy Life You Want to Live and Heal Yourself with Journaling Power. The power of Mari’s own story and the impact she has had on people all over the world will open your eyes. Don’t miss out: Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show.

Wednesday Feb 26, 2020
Wednesday Feb 26, 2020
Living Well with MS is proud to welcome back Dr. Aaron Boster, an Ohio-based neurologist specializing in MS, whom we featured last season on an episode exploring how to make the right medication choices when you have MS. Now we tap his expertise to help us understand the complicated calculus of how the lifestyle choices we make might impact MS and our overall health. We are surrounded by temptations – from that delicious pint of ice cream to the lure of sleeping in instead of hitting the gym – but the lifestyle choices we make come at a price. Whether or not you have MS (but particularly if you do), it’s important to understand the bargain you’re making between living a healthy life and enjoying some of your favorite vices. We hope this episode helps spark your thinking on this crucial topic. Dr. Aaron Boster’s Bio: Dr. Aaron Boster is an award-winning, widely published and Board-certified neurologist who currently serves as the Director of the Neuroscience Infusion Center at OhioHealth. Witnessing his uncle’s diagnosis with MS when he was 12, he and his family came to see a lack of coherence in the way MS was treated at the time. That experienced informed Dr. Boster’s drive to do things differently. At OhioHealth, he spearheads a revolutionary model in MS treatment and patient care drawing on interdisciplinary resources and putting patients and families first. Dr. Boster is also an Adjunct Assistant Professor of Neurology at Ohio University Heritage College of Osteopathic Medicine, and a former Assistant Professor of Neurology at The Ohio State University, where he also formerly headed the Neuroimmunology division. Dr. Boster received his MD from the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine. He also manages a popular YouTube channel covering all aspects of MS. Questions in this episode include: What comprises your “4 for 4” approach? The OMS 7 Step Recovery Program includes stress reduction and specifically encourages mindfulness. How does this align with your “4 for 4” approach? Another OMS pillar is to encourage a healthy lifestyle for family members because they have an increased risk of possibly getting MS. Do you agree with this thinking? Coming up on our next episode: Did you know exercise can help build neuroplasticity (for us lay people, that’s the brain’s ability to continually change, a sign of brain health)? On the following installment of Living Well with MS, Geoff Allix dives into this mind-expanding topic with Dr. Gretchen Hawley, a physical therapist and MS specialist based in Boston who is also the founder of the MS wellness program, The MSing Link. Don’t miss out: Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show.

Wednesday Feb 05, 2020
Wednesday Feb 05, 2020
Thanks for listening in to our second season’s second episode. Deuces are wild, so we are breaking with our usual format and setting the stage for two podcasters to have a frank and intimate conversation about their respective journeys. Joining Geoff for this episode is the talented Jessie Ace – blogger, illustrator and host of the DISabled to ENabled, a podcast that aims to inspire people living with chronic illness. Jessie has interviewed everyone from Paralympians and radio DJs to chronic illness bloggers and marathon runners. She’s also a writer and illustrator for the biggest MS charities worldwide, such as the multiple sclerosis today, National MS Society, MS Society UK, shift.MS, MS-UK amongst others, and has also written articles and illustrated for Momentum magazine, MS Matters and New Pathways. Jessie was diagnosed with MS at 22 and says MS makes her feel blessed every day to be able to live a new life and to connect with so many amazing people. Her own experience of being newly diagnosed so young was negative and scary, so she wants to change this for other young people and support them through the process by being a patient advocate. In lieu of specific questions, Jessie and Geoff discuss their respective MS diagnoses and the challenges they faced, as well as focusing a bit on OMS and how its 7 Step Recovery Program can help add a ray of hope to people with MS. Links: Jessie Ace’s Website From DISabled to ENabled Podcast Jessie Ace’s Blog Enabled Warriors on Facebook Enabled Warriors on Instagram Geoff Allix’s Bio Our next episode, Dr. Aaron Boster, an Ohio-based board-certified clinical neuroimmunologist specializing in MS, returns to the guest chair to rejoin Geoff in discussing lifestyle choices and how many the right (or the wrong) ones can impact your MS. Be sure to tune in! Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show.

Wednesday Jan 15, 2020
Wednesday Jan 15, 2020
Welcome to Season 2 of Living Well with MS and thank you for being part of our growing podcast audience. Thanks to you and listeners like you, the podcast’s first season was a hit, with audience stats that landed us in the top 20% of all podcasts out there. Please keep tuning in and spread the word. Regardless of how people hear about Overcoming MS, the important thing is that they hear about it, and Living Well with MS is an informative tool to help make that happen! On this first episode of our second season, we are pleased to welcome a very special guest to Living Well with MS, Dr. Valter Longo, the scientist behind the Fasting Mimicking Diet. Dr. Longo is a bio-gerontologist and cell biologist serves as a professor at the USC Davis School of Gerontology and as the director of the USC Longevity Institute. He is the creator of the fasting-mimicking diet, a low-calorie, low-protein, low-carbohydrate, high-fat meal program that claims to mimic the effects of periodic fasting. Despite the implication, this is a juicy and timely topic, so tune in to hear what Dr. Longo has to say. To read Dr. Longo’s full bio, click here. Questions: Thanks for joining us, Dr. Longo. Before we dive into your dietary recommendations, can you enlighten us a bit about today’s rising fascination with fasting diets? Tell us a bit about the fasting-mimicking diet and what you consider its primary benefits. What are the main differences between the fasting-mimicking diet and other fasting diets? What are blue zones? Your research shows that fasting mimicking can help people live longer, but can it also help people with MS live better? Can you tell us a bit more about 5:2, 16:8 and occasional water fasting, and is there a difference in effects between them? What should we eat between fasts? Can we drink alcohol? What is the Prolon diet? If people can’t afford Prolon, can they get some of the benefits on their own? Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favorite podcast listening app. Don’t be shy – if you like the program, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show. Our next episode is a special one, with one podcaster talking to another as Geoff Allix interviews Jessie Ace, host of the podcast, From DISabled to ENabled.

Friday Dec 20, 2019
Friday Dec 20, 2019
On this episode of the Living Well with MS podcast we are pleased to welcome Andy McKenna, who has been living with MS without the use of MS medication since 2007. He is the driving force behind ‘Stoked on MS’ and through this, hopes to shine a light of hope on the reality of leading a healthy, productive and active existence by adopting the Overcoming MS way of life.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps
01:39 About Andy McKenna
03:32 Andy’s journey to becoming an avid mountain biker
05:31 How MS changed Andy's relationship with cycling
11:38 What limitations has your MS introduced to your active lifestyle, and how have you dealt with or overcome them?
20:00 What is Stoked on MS?
22:14 Discovering Overcoming MS and experience with a lifestyle approach to MS management
33:38 A piece of wisdom or inspiration to impart to someone newly diagnosed with MS
35:07 Professor Jelinek’s Overcoming MS book
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