Living Well with Multiple Sclerosis

Bonus From the archive: Andy McKenna is Stoked on MS

On this episode of the Living Well with MS podcast we are pleased to welcome Andy McKenna, who has been living with MS without the use of MS medication since 2007. He is the driving force behind ‘Stoked on MS’ and through this, hopes to shine a light of hope on the reality of leading a healthy, productive and active existence by adopting the Overcoming MS way of life. 
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Topics and Timestamps  
01:39 About Andy McKenna 
03:32 Andy’s journey to becoming an avid mountain biker 
05:31 How MS changed Andy's relationship with cycling 
11:38 What limitations has your MS introduced to your active lifestyle, and how have you dealt with or overcome them? 
20:00 What is Stoked on MS?  
22:14 Discovering Overcoming MS and experience with a lifestyle approach to MS management 
33:38 A piece of wisdom or inspiration to impart to someone newly diagnosed with MS 
35:07 Professor Jelinek’s Overcoming MS book 
 
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Pregnancy and early parenthood with MS with neuro physio Becca Mullin | S7E03

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that helps you make informed choices to support your health and wellbeing. In this episode, we’re joined by Becca Mullin, a neuro physiotherapist and Pilates instructor specialising in post-partum clients with neurological conditions. Becca’s work is driven by a crucial gap she noticed while working in a busy London hospital—pregnant women with neurological conditions often lacked guidance on balancing their symptoms with the physical changes of pregnancy. Since then, Becca has dedicated her career to helping people with MS and other neurological conditions stay active—especially during pregnancy. Tune in now to learn how you can stay active and navigate pregnancy with confidence!
 
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Questions and Timestamps:
01:36 Becca’s introduction
02:57 The difference between a regular and neuro physiotherapist
05:13 Pregnancy support for people with neurological conditions
08:08 The benefits of staying active during pregnancy
12:05 Key recommendations for pregnant people with MS
16:17 Barriers to activity and how to overcome them
21:01 Introducing NeuroNatal Pilates for people with neurological conditions
24:20 What is Pilates and how it can help with MS symptoms
28:12 Becca’s top tips for pregnancy with MS
 
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Learn more about Becca at uptonneurophysio.com
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Exercise while pregnant infographic
Listen to S2E29 Pilates and MS: Building strength for everyone with Rachel Changer
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Webinar highlights – Healthy changes for you and your family | S7E02

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. In this episode, we welcome back health coach and Overcoming MS facilitator Laura Crowder with other familiar faces. Joining Laura, Overcoming MS Handbook co-editor Professor Michelle O’Donoghue, Circle Ambassador Vickie Hadge, and community member Ann Halstead discuss their personal journeys with Overcoming MS. Together, they explore the challenges, triumphs, and transformative power of lifestyle changes in living a full and healthy life with MS.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps
01:05 Laura Crowder’s MS journey
05:15 Professor Michelle O’Donoghue’s Overcoming MS journey
17:52 Vickie Hadge’s Overcoming MS journey
23:15 Ann Halstead’s Overcoming MS journey
28:22 The science supporting a plant-based diet for other diseases
30:32 Tips on not making two separate meals
33:00 Challenges introducing Overcoming MS to the family
 
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Watch the Overcoming MS Handbook webinar
Read the Overcoming MS Handbook
Michele O’Donoghue’s podcast episode S5E03
Vickie Hadge’s podcast episodes Season 4 Episode 1 and Season 2 Episode 13
The Esselstyn Heart Disease Program at Cleveland Clinic
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From the archive: The science behind Overcoming MS with Dr Jonathan White | S7 Bonus

In this "Bonus: From the archive" episode of the Living Well with MS podcast we are pleased to welcome Dr Jonathan White as our guest! He is a practicing medical doctor in Coleraine, on the North Coast of Northern Ireland, who also works with Overcoming MS as a medical consultant and event facilitator. In this episode, we dig into some of the research that supports and helps advance the Overcoming MS Program. 
 
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.   
  
Topics and Timestamps:  
01:35 Dr. White’s Diagnosis 
06:30 The science that supports Overcoming MS 
11:03 Pros and cons of following the Overcoming MS Program 
12:33 History of the research behind Overcoming MS 
20:40 Changes between the first and second editions of Professor Jelinek’s book 
28:47 Possible future changes to the Overcoming MS Program 
  
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Learn more about Dr. White’s professional background 
Learn more about the Overcoming MS Program 
Get Professor Jelinek’s book on Overcoming MS  
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The research on lifestyle and MS with Charlie Peel | S7E01

In this episode, we welcome Charlie Peel, Healthcare Partnerships Lead at Overcoming MS. With nearly two decades of experience in neurology, Charlie brings a wealth of knowledge and insight in the field of holistic MS management.
Charlie joins CEO Alex Holden to explore the latest research on how lifestyle choices—like maintaining optimal vitamin D levels and fostering social connections—can positively impact life with MS.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps
01:47 Meet Charlie and her unique journey that led her to Overcoming MS
05:19 Charlie shares her impactful role as Healthcare Partnerships Lead at Overcoming MS
10:52 A personal mission - why Charlie wanted to work for Overcoming MS
15:11 Dive into Charlie’s research paper on the life-changing outcomes of Overcoming MS retreats and Pathways courses
21:13 Explore the latest research in holistic management of MS
24:23 Discover the newest findings on high-dose vitamin D for MS
28:10 Autophagy’s role in remyelination
33:05 What the MS community can learn from research into other brain conditions
36:42 The power of connection - research on social connections, community and mental health
40:42 Charlie offers practical advice for anyone new to the Overcoming MS Program.
 
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More info and links:
Bee Well with MS Podcast with Dr Agne Straukiene
Journal article: MS care: integrating advanced therapies and holistic management
ECTRIMS webinar 2024 learn more about the Vit. D trials and more
MS Brain Health Report
The British Society of Lifestyle Medicine (BSLM) podcast with Dr Fraser Quin
Read the studies Charlie cited in this episode:
MS care: integrating advanced therapies and holistic management
The D-LAY study under publication - presented at ECTRIMs Medscape Registration Results showed high-dose (100,000iUD every 2 weeks for 24 months) vitamin D3 supplementation was safe and well tolerated in CIS and RRMS (89% met 2017 McDonald criteria), and related to less disease activity in CIS
The beneficial role of autophagy in multiple sclerosis: Yes or No?
Dementia prevention, intervention, and care: 2024 report of the Lancet standing Commission
WHO Social commission It’s time to harness the power of connection for our health and well-being
The updated McDonald criteria for diagnosing MS
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The power of lifestyle change with George Mckinty | S6E26

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we are pleased to welcome community member George Mckinty as our guest! George is a bodybuilder from Wales who follows the Overcoming MS Program. He speaks with Geoff about adopting the Overcoming MS lifestyle, the unique aspects of being a man diagnosed with MS and exercise tips if you live with daily MS symptoms.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:
01:15 George’s MS diagnosis and how he discovered Overcoming MS
04:00 Optic neuritis
05:20 Family history and genetic predisposition to MS
05:56 Adopting the Overcoming MS Program
08:27 Being a man diagnosed with MS
10:33 Accepting the diagnosis
12:02 Symptom management
13:34 Working out with MS symptoms
16:40 The 300 Challenge to support the Overcoming MS Charity
19:10 Positive outcomes from being diagnosed with MS
23:16 Tips for those just starting to adopt lifestyle changes
 
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Follow George on Instagram @GeorgeMckinty
Learn more about the 300 Challenge and how you can get involved
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Top sleep tips for people with MS with sleep therapist Denise lordache | S6E25

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re talking to Denise Iordache, a Cognitive Behavioral Hypnotherapist, who specialises in sleep and stress reduction. Because addressing sleep disturbances is important for overall health and managing MS symptoms, Denise and Geoff discuss ways to fall asleep, stay asleep and quickly fall back to sleep should you wake up in the night.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
 
Topics and Timestamps:
01:05 Denise’s career and expertise
02:57 The mechanics of sleep and why it’s important
06:13 How much sleep do we really need?
10:00 The circadian rhythm, light exposure and the internal body clock
15:02 Sleep hygiene and the optimal bedroom setup
18:00 How to set up a bedtime routine
20:55 How to prevent waking in the night and how to fall back asleep if you do
25:15 Mindfulness and sleep
29:30 Keeping a sleep journal
32:26 Assign worry time during the day
 
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Denise’s recommended relaxation techniques:
Box breathing
Hypnotherapy
Guided editation
Schedule your worry time earlier in the day
Denise’s ‘Top 5 Tips’ for a stress-free bedtime:
Optimise your sleep environment: Invest in quality bedding, blackout curtains, and ensure your bedroom is a comfortable haven for rest.
Incorporate daily practices: Practice daily exercises such as mindfulness, meditation, self-hypnosis, or deep breathing, to manage stress effectively.
Establish a consistent sleep routine: Stick to a regular sleep schedule, creating a calming pre-sleep routine to signal your body that it's time to wind down.
Embrace natural light: Spend at least 30 minutes outdoors each day to benefit from natural light, positively impacting your sleep and overall well-being.
Reflect regularly: Journal your thoughts and feelings, asking reflective questions to gauge your progress and make necessary adjustments.
Journalling for wellbeing blog post
Research discussing Ghrelin and Leptin’s connection to sleep
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Webinar Highlights: The Overcoming MS diet: healthy eating at home with Sam Josephs | S6E24

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re sharing highlights from our webinar with Sam Josephs, a registered Nutritional Therapist and Overcoming MS facilitator. Sam’s husband was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis in 2002 which has shaped the direction of Sam’s career and gives her the compassion and unique hands-on knowledge to support so many others with the condition. Sam gave us a brilliant breakdown of the diet pillar of the Overcoming MS Program and some great meal and snack ideas.
This past webinar was recorded as part of our Refresh with OMS webinar series. Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
 
Topics and Timestamps:
01:26 Find out about Sam’s background and qualifications
02:40 What is the Overcoming MS Program?
03:59 Diving into the Overcoming MS diet pillar
09:59 How can you feed your microbiome for optimal health?
08:43 The importance of fibre
10:54 What is a wholefood?
12:23 Cooking techniques compatible with the Overcoming MS Program
14:38 Easy and healthy snack ideas
16:34 Batch cooking Overcoming MS friendly meals
19:06 The immune benefits of drinking tea
 
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If you enjoyed this, why not check out one of our other podcast episodes featuring Sam:
S5E8 Family friendly Foods with Sam Josephs Webinar highlights
S1E4 The OMS Diet in a Nutshell (Part 2)
S1E3 The OMS Diet in a Nutshell (Part 1)
Overcoming MS Meal planning tool
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Ask Jack- Fermented foods | S6E23

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing.  We are pleased to welcome Jack McNulty as our guest! Jack is a professional cook and a longtime follower of the Overcoming MS Program. In this episode, he answers questions from the community about fermented foods.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:
01:35 What is fermentation and how does it fit with the Overcoming MS diet?
04:17 What do you need to begin fermenting at home?
08:07 Common pitfalls and how to avoid them
11:33 Dairy-free yogurt and kefir
18:07 Making kombucha
20:33 Homemade sourdough bread from a starter
28:23 Pickling vegetables
33:28 Koji, a cultured mold to make miso and soy sauce
37:45 Making apple cider vinegar
 
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Try Jack’s recipes for fermented foods here:
Read Jack’s newsletter at substack.com/
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Disease Modifying Therapies with Neurologist Dr. Aaron Boster | S6E22

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re thrilled to welcome back Dr Aaron Boster as our guest! Dr Boster is a board-certified Neurologist specialising in Multiple Sclerosis. He is a frequent guest on Living Well with MS and in this episode he’s here to talk about Medication, one of the pillars of the Overcoming MS Program. Specifically, Aaron goes into detail on a wide range of disease modifying therapies (DMTs) for MS, as well as discussing when people should start taking DMT’s, and what they should consider before they do so. There’s lots of useful information in this episode about many different DMT options – we hope you find it useful in making the right decisions for you. Let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:
01:21 What are the medication choices for people with MS and how have they improved?
02:39  When should I start a DMT?
04:30  What should I consider when choosing a drug?
07:08  Alemtuzumab (Lemtrada)
11:14  Cladribine (Mavenclad)
15:05  Fingolimod (Gilenya)
17:13  Mitoxantrone (Novantrone)
18:39  Natalizumab (Tysabri)
21:42  Ofatumumab (Kesimpta)
25:01  Ocrelizumab (Ocrevus)
28:58  Ozanimod (Zeposia)
30:35  Rituximab (Rituxan, MabThera, and Truxima)
32:34  Siponimod (Mayzent)
34:59  Avonex/ Betaferon/ Refib/ Extavia
37:49  Glatiramer Acetate (Copaxone)
40:07  Dimethyl Fumarate (Tecfidera)
42:38  Diroximel Fumarate (Vumerity)
43:46  Plegridy
44:45  Ponesimod (ponvory)
45:41  Teriflunomide (Aubagio)
50:14  Low-dose Naltrexone
52:07  BTK inhibitors
 
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Dr Boster was on six previous Living Well with MS episodes:
S1E11: Making the Right Medication Choices
S2E17: Lifestyle Choices and Their Impact on MS
S3E43: Let’s Talk About Sex (and MS)
S5E5 Webinar highlights from Ask Aaron with Dr. Aaron Boster
S5E36 Webinar Highlights: Ask a Neurologist with Dr Aaron Boster
S6E19 Webinar Highlights: Ask a Neurologist with Dr Aaron Boster
Check out Dr Boster’s popular YouTube channel covering all aspects of MS
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