Living Well with Multiple Sclerosis

S7E01 The research on lifestyle and MS with Charlie Peel

In this episode, we welcome Charlie Peel, Healthcare Partnerships Lead at Overcoming MS. With nearly two decades of experience in neurology, Charlie brings a wealth of knowledge and insight in the field of holistic MS management.
Charlie joins CEO Alex Holden to explore the latest research on how lifestyle choices—like maintaining optimal vitamin D levels and fostering social connections—can positively impact life with MS.
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Topics and Timestamps
01:47 Meet Charlie and her unique journey that led her to Overcoming MS
05:19 Charlie shares her impactful role as Healthcare Partnerships Lead at Overcoming MS
10:52 A personal mission - why Charlie wanted to work for Overcoming MS
15:11 Dive into Charlie’s research paper on the life-changing outcomes of Overcoming MS retreats and Pathways courses
21:13 Explore the latest research in holistic management of MS
24:23 Discover the newest findings on high-dose vitamin D for MS
28:10 Autophagy’s role in remyelination
33:05 What the MS community can learn from research into other brain conditions
36:42 The power of connection - research on social connections, community and mental health
40:42 Charlie offers practical advice for anyone new to the Overcoming MS Program.
 
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More info and links:
Bee Well with MS Podcast with Dr Agne Straukiene
Journal article: MS care: integrating advanced therapies and holistic management
ECTRIMS webinar 2024 learn more about the Vit. D trials and more
MS Brain Health Report
The British Society of Lifestyle Medicine (BSLM) podcast with Dr Fraser Quin
Read the studies Charlie cited in this episode:
MS care: integrating advanced therapies and holistic management
The D-LAY study under publication - presented at ECTRIMs Medscape Registration Results showed high-dose (100,000iUD every 2 weeks for 24 months) vitamin D3 supplementation was safe and well tolerated in CIS and RRMS (89% met 2017 McDonald criteria), and related to less disease activity in CIS
The beneficial role of autophagy in multiple sclerosis: Yes or No?
Dementia prevention, intervention, and care: 2024 report of the Lancet standing Commission
WHO Social commission It’s time to harness the power of connection for our health and well-being
The updated McDonald criteria for diagnosing MS
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The power of lifestyle change with George Mckinty | S6E26

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we are pleased to welcome community member George Mckinty as our guest! George is a bodybuilder from Wales who follows the Overcoming MS Program. He speaks with Geoff about adopting the Overcoming MS lifestyle, the unique aspects of being a man diagnosed with MS and exercise tips if you live with daily MS symptoms.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:
01:15 George’s MS diagnosis and how he discovered Overcoming MS
04:00 Optic neuritis
05:20 Family history and genetic predisposition to MS
05:56 Adopting the Overcoming MS Program
08:27 Being a man diagnosed with MS
10:33 Accepting the diagnosis
12:02 Symptom management
13:34 Working out with MS symptoms
16:40 The 300 Challenge to support the Overcoming MS Charity
19:10 Positive outcomes from being diagnosed with MS
23:16 Tips for those just starting to adopt lifestyle changes
 
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Follow George on Instagram @GeorgeMckinty
Learn more about the 300 Challenge and how you can get involved
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Top sleep tips for people with MS with sleep therapist Denise lordache | S6E25

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re talking to Denise Iordache, a Cognitive Behavioral Hypnotherapist, who specialises in sleep and stress reduction. Because addressing sleep disturbances is important for overall health and managing MS symptoms, Denise and Geoff discuss ways to fall asleep, stay asleep and quickly fall back to sleep should you wake up in the night.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
 
Topics and Timestamps:
01:05 Denise’s career and expertise
02:57 The mechanics of sleep and why it’s important
06:13 How much sleep do we really need?
10:00 The circadian rhythm, light exposure and the internal body clock
15:02 Sleep hygiene and the optimal bedroom setup
18:00 How to set up a bedtime routine
20:55 How to prevent waking in the night and how to fall back asleep if you do
25:15 Mindfulness and sleep
29:30 Keeping a sleep journal
32:26 Assign worry time during the day
 
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Denise’s recommended relaxation techniques:
Box breathing
Hypnotherapy
Guided editation
Schedule your worry time earlier in the day
Denise’s ‘Top 5 Tips’ for a stress-free bedtime:
Optimise your sleep environment: Invest in quality bedding, blackout curtains, and ensure your bedroom is a comfortable haven for rest.
Incorporate daily practices: Practice daily exercises such as mindfulness, meditation, self-hypnosis, or deep breathing, to manage stress effectively.
Establish a consistent sleep routine: Stick to a regular sleep schedule, creating a calming pre-sleep routine to signal your body that it's time to wind down.
Embrace natural light: Spend at least 30 minutes outdoors each day to benefit from natural light, positively impacting your sleep and overall well-being.
Reflect regularly: Journal your thoughts and feelings, asking reflective questions to gauge your progress and make necessary adjustments.
Journalling for wellbeing blog post
Research discussing Ghrelin and Leptin’s connection to sleep
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Webinar Highlights: The Overcoming MS diet: healthy eating at home with Sam Josephs | S6E24

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re sharing highlights from our webinar with Sam Josephs, a registered Nutritional Therapist and Overcoming MS facilitator. Sam’s husband was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis in 2002 which has shaped the direction of Sam’s career and gives her the compassion and unique hands-on knowledge to support so many others with the condition. Sam gave us a brilliant breakdown of the diet pillar of the Overcoming MS Program and some great meal and snack ideas.
This past webinar was recorded as part of our Refresh with OMS webinar series. Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
 
Topics and Timestamps:
01:26 Find out about Sam’s background and qualifications
02:40 What is the Overcoming MS Program?
03:59 Diving into the Overcoming MS diet pillar
09:59 How can you feed your microbiome for optimal health?
08:43 The importance of fibre
10:54 What is a wholefood?
12:23 Cooking techniques compatible with the Overcoming MS Program
14:38 Easy and healthy snack ideas
16:34 Batch cooking Overcoming MS friendly meals
19:06 The immune benefits of drinking tea
 
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If you enjoyed this, why not check out one of our other podcast episodes featuring Sam:
S5E8 Family friendly Foods with Sam Josephs Webinar highlights
S1E4 The OMS Diet in a Nutshell (Part 2)
S1E3 The OMS Diet in a Nutshell (Part 1)
Overcoming MS Meal planning tool
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Ask Jack- Fermented foods | S6E23

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing.  We are pleased to welcome Jack McNulty as our guest! Jack is a professional cook and a longtime follower of the Overcoming MS Program. In this episode, he answers questions from the community about fermented foods.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:
01:35 What is fermentation and how does it fit with the Overcoming MS diet?
04:17 What do you need to begin fermenting at home?
08:07 Common pitfalls and how to avoid them
11:33 Dairy-free yogurt and kefir
18:07 Making kombucha
20:33 Homemade sourdough bread from a starter
28:23 Pickling vegetables
33:28 Koji, a cultured mold to make miso and soy sauce
37:45 Making apple cider vinegar
 
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Try Jack’s recipes for fermented foods here:
Read Jack’s newsletter at substack.com/
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Disease Modifying Therapies with Neurologist Dr. Aaron Boster | S6E22

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re thrilled to welcome back Dr Aaron Boster as our guest! Dr Boster is a board-certified Neurologist specialising in Multiple Sclerosis. He is a frequent guest on Living Well with MS and in this episode he’s here to talk about Medication, one of the pillars of the Overcoming MS Program. Specifically, Aaron goes into detail on a wide range of disease modifying therapies (DMTs) for MS, as well as discussing when people should start taking DMT’s, and what they should consider before they do so. There’s lots of useful information in this episode about many different DMT options – we hope you find it useful in making the right decisions for you. Let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:
01:21 What are the medication choices for people with MS and how have they improved?
02:39  When should I start a DMT?
04:30  What should I consider when choosing a drug?
07:08  Alemtuzumab (Lemtrada)
11:14  Cladribine (Mavenclad)
15:05  Fingolimod (Gilenya)
17:13  Mitoxantrone (Novantrone)
18:39  Natalizumab (Tysabri)
21:42  Ofatumumab (Kesimpta)
25:01  Ocrelizumab (Ocrevus)
28:58  Ozanimod (Zeposia)
30:35  Rituximab (Rituxan, MabThera, and Truxima)
32:34  Siponimod (Mayzent)
34:59  Avonex/ Betaferon/ Refib/ Extavia
37:49  Glatiramer Acetate (Copaxone)
40:07  Dimethyl Fumarate (Tecfidera)
42:38  Diroximel Fumarate (Vumerity)
43:46  Plegridy
44:45  Ponesimod (ponvory)
45:41  Teriflunomide (Aubagio)
50:14  Low-dose Naltrexone
52:07  BTK inhibitors
 
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Dr Boster was on six previous Living Well with MS episodes:
S1E11: Making the Right Medication Choices
S2E17: Lifestyle Choices and Their Impact on MS
S3E43: Let’s Talk About Sex (and MS)
S5E5 Webinar highlights from Ask Aaron with Dr. Aaron Boster
S5E36 Webinar Highlights: Ask a Neurologist with Dr Aaron Boster
S6E19 Webinar Highlights: Ask a Neurologist with Dr Aaron Boster
Check out Dr Boster’s popular YouTube channel covering all aspects of MS
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Webinar Highlights: Reducing stress through meditation and mindfulness with Dr Phil Startin | S6E21

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re sharing the highlights from our webinar with the incredible Dr Phil Startin! Phil is an Overcoming MS facilitator who lives with progressive MS. He’s an expert in meditation and mindfulness and teaches Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction courses for people with MS. Phil gave us some brilliant information and really useful tips on how to meditate – it’s a fascinating listen whether you are a regular meditator or are just getting started with your practice. Let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
 
Topics and Timestamps:
01:22 Phil’s background in meditation and mindfulness
03:33 The fight or flight response
04:49 How stress dysregulates our immune system
08:47 Meditation is clinically proven to help people cope with stress
10:41 Mini meditations to try throughout the day
13:49 Guided meditation
20:06 A definition of mindfulness
23:50 The benefits of awareness, including increased resilience
28:02 Mental health tips for your daily routine
 
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Phil Startin has been on two other Living Well with MS episodes:
S5E19 Webinar highlights: Progressive MS with Phil Startin and Helen Rees Leahy
S5E14 Webinar highlights: Mindfulness and Meditation with Phil Startin
Jon Kabat-Zinn's Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction
Dr Walter Cannon’s fight or flight response
Meditation expert Ian Gawler
Listen to meditation expert Craig Hassed
S5E13 Meditation tips with Professor Craig Hassed
S1E7 Building a daily meditation practice with Dr Craig Hassed
Shannon Harvey’s film My Year of Living Mindfully or listen to her podcast episode
Hardwiring Happiness by Rick Hanson
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Meditation with Overcoming MS facilitator Yvette Sargood | S6E20

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re thrilled to welcome Yvette Sargood as our guest! Yvette is an Overcoming MS facilitator and a meditation teacher who lives with MS and follows the Overcoming MS program. In this fascinating episode, Yvette talks to Geoff about meditation and mindfulness, as well as her personal journey with the MS Program, including disclosing her diagnosis to her employer and how she overcame her chocolate cravings! There’s lots of useful information and tips in this episode (including a discussion on chocolate replacements!) We hope you enjoy it – let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
 
Topics and Timestamps:
01:18 Yvette’s MS and Overcoming MS journey
07:05 The progress made on DMTs and discrimination since the 1990s
09:01 The benefits to starting the Overcoming MS program even long after diagnosis
11:26 The decision to start a disease modifying therapy
14:59 Her difficulties in adopting the Overcoming MS program
16:27 Overcoming her chocolate cravings and chocolate replacements
18:51 Maintaining a healthy weight on the Overcoming MS program
20:23 The benefits of following the Overcoming MS program
22:54 Disclosing a multiple sclerosis diagnosis to your employer
26:01 Becoming an Overcoming MS facilitator
27:46 What is mindfulness and why is it important for people with MS?
32:53 Misconceptions about meditation and stress reduction
35:42 Tips for people new to the Overcoming MS program
 
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More info and links:
Download the Headspace app for meditation
Learn more about Disease Modifying Therapies for MS
Listen to a podcast featuring OMSer chef
Read Yvette’s article on executives and disability
Learn more about mindfulness expert Jon Kabat-Zinn
Join a mindfulness course with Yvette through MS-UK
Become an Overcoming MS volunteer
To take part in the next Pathway to Overcoming MS course email events@overcomingms.org
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Webinar Highlights: Your opportunity to speak to a Neurologist about Living Well with MS with Dr Aaron Boster | S6E19

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re sharing the highlights from our ‘Ask Aaron’ webinar, recorded in front of a global audience, with the incredible Dr Aaron Boster. Dr Boster is a board-certified neurologist who specialises in MS, and we’re delighted to have him answering a huge range of questions from our community! From medications to MRI’s and pregnancy to cold showers, Dr Boster gave us so many brilliantly informative answers - we hope you find this episode really useful. Let us know what you think!  
 
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Topics and Timestamps: 
 
01:49 Defining benign MS 
05:05 How to get the most out of your time with your neurologist 
09:32 The DMTs that help with brain atrophy 
09:46 MRI’s as a way to show the rate of brain atrophy 
18:20 Aubagio for secondary progressive MS 
22:11 The future of Ocrevus dosing guidelines and becoming pregnant on ocrelizumab 
26:31 Treating MS-relating dystonia 
28:37 Treatments for MS-related bladder dysfunction  
35:15 Low-dose Naltrexone for MS 
39:00 The benefits of cold showers  
39:38 Immune reconstitution therapies  
43:22 Managing MS with diet and exercise  
To join us live for the next webinar or watch the original presentation head to our website overcomingms.org 
 
More info and links:  
Dr Boster was on five previous Living Well with MS episodes:
S1E11: Making the Right Medication Choices   
S2E17: Lifestyle Choices and Their Impact on MS  
S3E43: Let’s Talk About Sex (and MS) 
S5E5 Webinar highlights from Ask Aaron with Dr. Aaron Boster 
S5E36 Webinar Highlights: Ask a Neurologist with Dr Aaron Boster 
Check out Dr Boster’s popular YouTube channel covering all aspects of MS 
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The latest research in exercise for MS with Dr Robert Motl | S6E18

Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re thrilled to welcome Dr Robert Motl as our guest! Dr Motl is a professor of kinesiology, nutrition and rehabilitation sciences at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He’s a top researcher in the field of exercise and physical activity for people living with MS and, in this fascinating episode, he talks to Overcoming MS facilitator Veronique Gauthier-Simmons about how much exercise is recommended for people with MS, the differences between lifestyle physical activity and structured exercise, and he explains how exercise works within the brain to slow MS progression. We learnt so much from Dr Motl, and hope it helps you kick start a new phase in your relationship with physical activity. Let us know what you think!
 
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
 
Topics and Timestamps:
02:09 Overview of Dr Motl’s research lab and team
03:21 Dr Motl’s interest in multiple sclerosis
05:57 Key findings over the years of the benefits of exercise for people with MS
09:32 Lifestyle physical activity vs. structured exercise for people with MS
15:03 How much exercise is recommended for people with MS?
17:39 Exercise as a disease modifying behavior
20:28 What part of the disease progression does exercise help?
22:12 Exercise’s effects on the brain
25:50 Who benefits the most from exercise?
28:42 Social prescribing of exercise for people with MS
31:16 Exercise’s effects on mood for people with MS
34:54 How to participate in future studies
36:16 The benefits of a holistic approach to MS management
 
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Learn more about Veronique Gauthier-Simmons
Learn more about Dr Motl’s Exercise Neurology Reseach Laboratory
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